In case you were concerned, I am no longer. At last, someone did this! That's good to know about the one Gen 4 SSD, thank you very much for that information. Watch the video you'll get noise. Almost no room to do anything and beneath a hot GPU. Well the Pro / Master are two very solid options, the ITX is interesting because it's the only ITX ,and the Xtreme is .. well.. the only passive board. It's essentially CISC instruction --> CISC decoder --> several proprietary micro instructions --> RISC decoder, [–]BlackDE 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child). [–]BubsyFanboy1050p60,9600GT,Win10,Pentium G4400,4GB DDR3 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (3 children). Rule 10: Exception to the Rules - The mods of /r/AMD reserve the right to allow posts/comments that could break any of the rules, when a situation has arisen where the post is funny, educational or useful to the users of /r/AMD. Don’t be facetious... it’s a perfectly valid concern. Buy the features you want. [–]thebloodyaugustABC 114 points115 points116 points 1 year ago (33 children). We'll have some X570 builds in the coming weeks, we'll at least see if some interesting data pops up to dive into that further. Dec 10, 2019 #27 Zafir said: I have a X570 Aorus Pro and the chipset fan noise has … where hitting the limit with x86, [–]azeiaRyzen 9 3950X | Radeon RX 560 4GB 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child). I feel completely let down. [–]ryao 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago* (6 children). [–]tamarockstarR7 3800 RX 5700XT 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (6 children). I don’t like the x570 boards having the tiny cooling fan on the chipset. Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube. Brands all use their own 'logic' to come up with a number that means damn close to anything. From wikipedia. [–]BubsyFanboy1050p60,9600GT,Win10,Pentium G4400,4GB DDR3 30 points31 points32 points 1 year ago (32 children). Everything else in my case is super cool due to 6 x case fans which create a very good airflow and all of them are silent fans so bearly not hearable but the whining of the chipset fans is very audible sometimes. Test with the highest power AIB gpus which let hot air into the case and also potentially block the fan opening. Welcome to /r/AMD; the subreddit for all things AMD - come talk about Ryzen, Threadripper, EPYC, Navi, the next-gen consoles, news, rumours, show-off your build and more. I don't seen any fan control in the bios to adjust it driving me nuts atm. None use a 'standard' retail fan. [–]flyrobot27 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children), MSI's chipset fan are the same ones they use on their GPUs, so it should be perfectly fine, [–]Chronic_MediaAMD 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child). AT the very best can you compare one reviewers result to another. This is a big help! 2016: Dec | Nov. and join one of thousands of communities. What is the VRM like on the elite vs the msi Gaming Plus? It should be just fine for anything released on AM4. I have the latest bios on the board. On behalf of Nada who made this video: if there are any questions, just … Who knows... [–]WhatsthisnotgoodcompB450, R7 2700X, Vega 56, 32gb 3200mhz, NVMe 13 points14 points15 points 1 year ago (2 children). So when the chipset fan has, on average, a ~20 dB higher sound level between it and a good case fan, we are talking 4x the perceived loudness. 3rd: A decent case has nothing to do with it. Again, most people in power just don't know anything about tech, so we have to suffer with their incompetence. I can confirm that my chipset fan only spins on boot-up, and then shuts off per my custom curve. Those things always fail or become noisy over time. I have to use the low power mode when just browsing else the cpu fan randomly revs up. So much competition in motherboards, yet so little competition in GPU and CPU markets. Rule 7: No shitposts or memes - Shitposts and memes are not allowed. I've got an Asrock X570 Steel Legend and I don't hear the fan on it at all, but it's in a Fractal Design R4 and I'm not using anything that would make the chipset get hot. Not really required to run 99% of the time. [–]azeiaRyzen 9 3950X | Radeon RX 560 4GB 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (1 child). [–]ryao 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (2 children). [–]return_of_the_ring 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago (2 children). Also using x570 Aorus Master on silent profile. In any case, my point wasn't to suggest that Intel's legal threats are legitimate, but rather to mention that such threats exist. Eh, I wouldn't praise the motherboard market too much. does it ramp up fan speed during load like gaming? [–]d2_ricciwaits on 3800X | AMD VII 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (7 children). If I will remember, I will look later on myself what x570 is the best and quietest, but the silent and best option is usually the x470 boards, no fan equals no additional noise. Wise Guy . I know it seems far-fetched, but we're postulating a world where Linux has already become the primary mainstream OS; in such a world it might have a domino effect and cause other projects to become open, perhaps through competition. I don't why more people aren't focusing on the chipset and chipset fans, but thank you for doing so. Thaaaaaanks, Well if you passively cool your CPU that'll be quieter ;). AMD Ryzen: Gain of every Zen generation on application and gaming performance, Thank you AMD for open source drivers - with their magic combined with Proton, Cyberpunk 2077 runs on Linux. X570 Chipset Temperatures and Fan Noise. [–]Foritain-Techtesters[S] 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child), As for self-repair, pff.. you're probably better off with a 3rd party heatsink and a small mountable fan or so? Considering the minor differences in temps when stressing them, the chances of 2 SSDs in a normal use case causing more heat are slim Id say. but we need to start planing past that .every other tech has change now but for that. I can't speak to the longevity of the chipset fans, but if its not even spinning for the vast majority of the time I can't imagine we'll see many failures during the working lifetime of the board. The chipset fan on my X570-E Gaming is pretty silent as far as I am aware. [–]Phlier3900x | MSI X570 Ace | 2x16GB 3600 CL15 B-Die 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), can attest to the MSI ACE being very quiet. I also have this board. Running 3900X on AORUS Pro WiFi (not the I, but the one with 3 PCIe slots).with GTX1070 . [–]TheswweetRyzen 9 3900x, 32GB 3600c14, RX Vega 56 @ 1650/975 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child), [–]looncrazFlare this. I have the curve set from like 10% - 50% for 70c to 80c and so far highest ive seen during gaming is 81c. Just to clarify: we didn't get any coil whine on any of these boards (or any in general really). It's more than I've ever spent on a motherboard but its been worth the extra 30-50ish dollars over the 470 board I was going to get. It is a rather tenuous path to take. I have the x570 Aorus Master....the Chipset Fan is high pitch and super annoying. How was your experience with installing and whatnot? I would peek at the Aorus Elite though. Exactly for the reason you're asking actually: If you add a tiny bit of airflow, even a big open-design GPU for example in the slot above it, the fan won't even spin up at all on the GB/MSI boards. The fan does kick on til it hits 50. GIGABYTE X570 motherboards based on the AMD X570 Chipset provide full support for 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen™ Processors. I am happy with it now, all back to quiet. [–]Foritain-Techtesters[S] 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (1 child). I'll check that right away :), [–]BW4LLRyzen 3700X ¦ RTX 2070S ¦Asrock x570 Taichi 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (2 children). This is not an easy thing to do at all even for a company of this size. 320 $50 off, so $270, I’m not really sure what puts this mobo over others, but I do want something that will run well, a large reason I was looking to build a pc is my current Mac isn’t handling my workload well anymore. Rule 9: No title alteration - Changing the title of submitted links is not allowed, please use the suggested title for link submissions or copy the title of the original link. Most people in the open source community, myself included, are vehemently against software patents and think they just destroy innovation and cause rent-seeking behavior. A chipset fan is 100% equivalent to a case fan you would have either on your CPU cooler or more generally your case. RTX are way overpriced and don't outperform it, 2080 is just faster by like 4-6 fps on average, which makes you wonder what you should get. 4 x Front USB 2.0 ports. I have an Asrock X570 Phantom Gaming X and with a few Eve Online Clients running it seems to vary around 70-76°C, idle around 65°C. Those things always fail or become noisy over time. But which board has the best passive cooling? Does yours do the same? Can you tell me if there are controls for the fan? Even then, it's silent. There a test would bring much more value that the one produced here. Ty. [–]htt_novaqi5-3570k @ 4.3 / Vega 56 @ 1540 UV 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (2 children). Basically the traditional definitions don't make much sense anymore, so I extrapolated based on what I thought the commenter meant, when I responded. Even on Silent, it's the loudest part of my system. with the standard size like 40mm x 40mm or 60mm x 60mm? Maybe in a future bios update because as i analyzed the bios file trough AMIBCP the voice is present but hidden. stuff that not been used in 30 years. but i think we both agree. I built a new AMD-based system in April and it has been great apart from one issue, an annoying 'ticking' or clicking type noise. Rule 2: No referral or affiliate links - referral or affiliate links are not allowed. Not only has it got the detailed fan blades of an MSI GPU, but its X570 boards are also including a 0dB mode too. RISC designs also get extra instruction sets added to them, like SIMD stuff, etc. Hopefully and can figure this out but for the moment I only lost 15 percent performance. Good to hear! I dont see a reason for idle to be active cooling. Patent licensing might not be an issue. Discussion . I don’t like the x570 boards having the tiny cooling fan on the chipset. Short Version: It isn't enough to matter between the various motherboards. [–]azeiaRyzen 9 3950X | Radeon RX 560 4GB 70 points71 points72 points 1 year ago (31 children). I've not stumbled upon it yet. That often has a way of swaying things in a more progressive direction. [–]Lulumurr1 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children), [–]Foritain-Techtesters[S] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child), [–]Cynderxi7 7700k | Crossfire Vega 64 | RTX 2080ti 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child), That’s okay, I can’t hear that fan over my over volting 3800x cpu fan going nuts at idle, [–]yellowpasta_mech 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). K. kapone32. But honestly until you start pushing a 3900X to it's limits it shouldnt make much of a difference, and from what I see from overclocking now the CPU temps/voltage become an issue way before the VRMs do. Has a little bit of a chunky sound compared to the stock fan which was more high pitched, but I prefer the Noctua and can rarely hear it even with my case right on my desk. But the objection is on point. I am just going to get the max boards when they arrive., [–]devildante1520 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). I don't think it works, otherwise why would new Mesa releases on many distros like Arch pull in newer versions of LLVM and not work if you mix/match old and new unless you recompile? [–]BubbleCast3950x || 1080Ti 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (4 children). Just peace and quiet. photoshop, after effects, ableton 10, as well as gaming. I dont understand how even the 250$ Gaming Pro Carbon doesn't have that. A good way to stress the chipset is by running raid 0 on pcie 4.0 nvme drives. Totally true, but charging almost 700$ for a mobo (besides all the fancy features) with passive cooling it's crazy. If you're not overclocking, and you dont need a ton of USB or M.2 slots, most boards will be fine actually. If you really want to go OC mode, I dont think the X570-E from ASUS (which is ok-priced here, but i think not worth it in the US vs the Hero iirc) is a bad option per sé. Update: A very kind member of the medical community helped me get the final piece(6800xt) of the build I am gifting to my brother. I don’t like the x570 boards having the tiny cooling fan on the chipset. This is a complete non-issue....i don't understand the obsession. 1) The X570 chipset has a fan - but basically all of the X570 range except the halo-tier boards have a chipset fan. The default balanced profile was tested, I believe. The loudest thing in my case is a magnetic storage drive that will be removed shortly. Rule 3: Be civil, no religion or politics - remember the human, be civil and follow sitewide rules; brigading, personal attacks, mass mentioning users and the use of slurs are not allowed. Member. in fact my whole build is pretty silent which makes me happy, [–]bluefisch200AMD Ryzen 7 3700X | MSI X570 GPC | EVGA RTX 2070 Super XC Ultra 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (0 children). That and the fact that they seem to care about community outreach. If you have 2 or 3 NVMe drives, sure, put the Windows drive on the CPU slot and the rest on chipset slots. Epos7 said: I … I would love to see like an experiment showing how hard would it be for an end user to change the fan on their own if it breaks down, but that requires a lot of tinkering. If you are looking for further suggestions: I would actually be very interested in seeing the results of a test which attempted to gauge the efficiency of the passive cooling of each of the new X570 motherboards. [–]firedrakes2990wx 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (4 children). I'm really considering getting the elite even though I have the gaming plus. I updated to the latest version of the bios and it seems to be fixed. I do like MSI bios more than GB bios, but not enough more to justify not taking the generally better hw on GB boards this gen. Hopefully Asus implements a fans off mode as well. 1-D_FE. yet still gets put in.where finale seeing multi core/thread software that was only written for consumer due to at the time. What temperature do you set it to start rotating at? I remember a huge EVGA HEDT mobo that had a couple of them. What range of temperatures are about right for the current chipset? We know the TDP has tripled compared to x470 and that they need to design for the worst use case (no airflow, constrained space). Awesome suggestion, duly noted. I no longer have the issue of the chipset fan spinning out of control. [–]siluah 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]510Threaded 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (0 children), Let's not stress their poor intern anymore than they already are, [–]yx1 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]le_dy0 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (2 children), I wonder if Asus will update the BIOS so we are able to stop the fan while in idle, [–]Admixues3900X/Master/RX VEGA 56 PULSE (Hynix HBM @945) 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]sudo-rm-r3700x | 2080ti 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). Rule 8: Straw polls and Reddit polls are not allowed - We encourage discussion and debate. We also reserve the right to remove posts or comments that may not technically break the rules in situations where moderators feel the post is not appropriate. lol. But in all seriousness, the chance of you hearing this are slim unless you get a case with terrible airflow making the fan spin up. (Unless you count the Parrot VM bytecode developed for perl6.). Zero compatibility issues, good fan profiles, great feature set, and I'm pretty sure gigabyte has had the AB bios update for a few weeks now so they've been really on top of bios updates so far. AMD is taking their time putting out AGRSA updates. On the bright side, LLVM updates would result in the software on a machine becoming faster. [–]Jawbone220 18 points19 points20 points 1 year ago (2 children). 120 mm noctua fan has a max dB of 22.6 dB, Bequiet 120 mm fan has a max dB of 16.4 dB, I hadn't thought about it until you pointed out that the bytecode format changes. Hate these chipsets. These types of patents absolutely don't drive innovation, the problem is most lawmakers are completely technologically illiterate and don't understand where to draw the line on these things. Well in the past couple days this fan is running none stop at 100%. Show only OP | 8 Jun 2020 at 17:15 #1. Rendered by PID 27458 on r2-app-005550a1c2b16eca0 at 2020-12-20 08:56:43.636415+00:00 running 406fa40 country code: PL. If you have a question regarding the way a rule was or was not applied to a particular post or comment, please message us via modmail. I'm surprised the MSI doesn't do better under load due to the heatpipe and the fact that the fan is not blocked by the GPU. Their bios implementations have always been wacky and … [–]TheswweetRyzen 9 3900x, 32GB 3600c14, RX Vega 56 @ 1650/975 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (3 children), Asrock allows fan stop in custom curves on the latest bios, [–]Foritain-Techtesters[S] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children), I checked and 1.4 was the latest version at the time. Once updated to the BIOS revision that gives PCH fan control, setting it to silent yielded the following: 0RPM until 60c. Don't mean a goddamn thing and never have. At the time of writing, this is the cost of PCIe 4.0 compatibility, but a PC modder called DerRuehrer has decided to work around this issue on his ROG Strix X570-E. But that's about right. Is the chipset fan being right in line with where your gpu would sit an issue? Have to look at it to tell it's running. On Asus, ASRock & Gigabyte the fans is fully or partially covered with a big graphics card. am not saying x86 is bad. all that. Without spending some ridiculous amount of cash and ending up with a chipset that is liquid cooled with tubing and pumps to fail. [–]htt_novaqi5-3570k @ 4.3 / Vega 56 @ 1540 UV 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children). Given that patents usually are filed before the release of a product, and that Opteron with AMD64 came out in 2003, we'll be able to have independent 64bit x86 CPUs around 2023 or so, maybe sooner depending on when relevant patents were filed. [–]JoshHardware 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children). If it offers all the headers you need? The chipsets are in an incredibly difficult spot on the motherboard. | Jun | May Go take a look at TR4 boards. I've noticed msi have their fans positioned lower down to avoid gpu obstructions as well.. [–]pbkoden 20 points21 points22 points 1 year ago (11 children). [–]ryao 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago* (4 children). Seems like a bad idea to be able to patent an instruction set. With upgraded power delivery and comprehensive cooling options to fuel AMD's latest CPUs, plus support for faster memory and storage, TUF Gaming X570-Plus (Wi-Fi) is the perfect foundation for your next high-core-count AMD battle rig. [–]hackenclawQ9650 | Radeon 7790 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children). Their bios implementations have always been wacky and … And if you care about WiFi, ASUS has the TUF, or you can slap a $15 AX200 chip on a dozen cheaper boards. Most PC builders dislike the fact that most AMD X570 motherboards ship with fan-assisted chipset heatsinks, potentially adding unwanted fan noise to high-end desktop systems. Anyway i don't mind the fan at all, i'm more concerned about the temperature. No coil whine when the ace spins up. Of course, as noted in the description of the video, that doesn't go for the ITX board as it simply doesn't have a chipset gen4 x16 slot (which might explain why it doesn't seem bothered to spin up much). Thanks for this, mine isn't arriving until Monday (went too fast at checkout and ended up with EggSaver that didn't even leave Newegg until Tuesday night) and this will help me sleep at night :). Cyrix showed that it was possible to make a compatible CPU without infringing on patents and won a lawsuit Intel had filed against it that had claimed otherwise. I don't want to hear my pc at all. CISC in itself has no benefit over RISC (besides being easier to program for). Both have the same price in my country - 250€, [–]Foritain-Techtesters[S] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (3 children). Sorry, I cannot. There wouldn't be much point in stressing a GPU in the CPU lane slots right? If such a thing were implemented and adopted, people could easily switch between aarch64, arm64, ppc64, etcetera depending on whatever ISA gives the best performance when they are buying hardware. But as she said as well, she/we are up for expanding this if there is a clear larger interest in the content. Rule 4: All posts must be related to AMD or AMD products. Do you have any idea? 2nd: It's much more complicated, and very much distance related. New Cyberpunk patch 1.05 actually makes performance worse on AMD 8 core CPUs? It's a nice change of pace from watching videos of nerdy dudes all the time. Meanwhile, I'm just fine with my Aorus X370 K7 + 3900X, [–]WhatsthisnotgoodcompB450, R7 2700X, Vega 56, 32gb 3200mhz, NVMe 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (2 children), AMD find a way to get rid of an active cooling solution for the chipset. [–]fareszrR7 3800X|CROSSHAIR VII|GTX1070 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (2 children). I just ordered the x570 strix-e, and I'm seriously considering canceling it and getting something else instead.... [–]ankor77 28 points29 points30 points 1 year ago (9 children), I can attest to the MSI ACE being very quiet. Ah, this also brings back memories of Nvidia Ion, the GeForce accelerated Atom chipset. It's a good thing they did... As for 2 Gen 4 SSD's, we would have tested if we could have, but we only have the one Gen 4 SSD so far. There needs to be a correction. [–]shmerl 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child). Just got a 1080ti installed in my Aorus Elite with a 3700x and I can confirm the bottom end of my card hits my chipset fan cover a little bit. Their bios implementations have always been wacky and … [–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago* (1 child), Imo someone should've just ditched the 3rd full length pcie slot for extra area to get passive cooling. People running zen 2 right now are early adopter for sure. However i don't know if that changes if I were to hang 2 PCI-E 4.0 SSDs off that chipset. Very technical though. The "competition" is simply the PCB and cooling solution which isn't exactly high-tech. If the post lacks said comment, it will be removed. but also their a point with x86... it reaching near 50 to 60 years old.... you ever see any architect that old in tech. I wish they were a bit more ready for prime time. Clock speed is only part of the equation. I mean, explaining the details is really complicated. Short version would be: Aorus Pro > GPC > Elite >>> Gaming Plus. Straw and Reddit polls are simple questions resulting in a yes/no answer or soliciting another ballot-type response. The BIOS now correctly reports the proper rpm. I do not think anybody has tested it yet. I said "no" to basically the whole post. 1st: ? You may also want to use /r/AMDHelp and /r/TechSupport. Slightly nuanced would be 'ASUS/ASRock should probably add a fan stop' and 'Fan stop might push your decision if you're not entirely sure'. X570 Aorus Elite, I set the fan curve to silent and as far as I can tell it doesn't even spin. © 2020 reddit inc. All rights reserved. In the case of game engines for instance, it would only take like one company to make an open source engine that dominates everything else, for others to feel the pressure and realize there is no money in keeping theirs closed anymore. You don't see many new companies entering the AIB market because its not very profitable compared to processor design. Silent doesn't turn on the fan until 70-75C on the MSI. This is literally why I chose the Gigabyte Master x570 board over everything else as I saw this discussion playing out on their message boards. I run my PCs 24/7 so the 60K hours it's rated at will happen well before I plan to stop using this MB. I just bought this board. LIkewise if you looked around the people having noise problems on motherboards tend to have issues with fan location and type of card. I've considered this solution myself, but LLVM bytecode changes quite often, so it would have to be something else. Everyone at the search of the most silent X570 while here I am, with an AMD stock gpu, the loudest gpu fan I've ever had so far. Love it :D, [–]bbqwatermelon 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]freddyt55555 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). My god, all that information flowing! Gigabyte lets you turn the fan off if the chipset is under 60C.... i set that on day one and dont think it turned on even once. [–]xMEECH08x 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child), [–]nwash57 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). Fair point with them not investing more on their designs but I just wanted to point out that TDP is not truly indicative of the amount of heat it generates.